Who is responsible for Evil?

Any Christian I’ve ever discussed “evil” with has told me that Satan is responsible for anything evil in the world. Murder? Satan. Eartquakes? Satan. Child abuse? Satan. War, famine, pestilence, hurricanes? Satan, every time!

Then I ask: “Who created Satan?” and I get an answer along the lines of: “He was an angel, but he didn’t want to follow the word of god, so he was cast from heaven. He now rule hell, and is a bad fellow indeed!”

Sounds legit, right? Not according to Isaiah 45:7.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Holy cow! God tell everybody he’s responsible for both darkness and evil!!

I guess Christians don’t know their book well enough?

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13 responses to “Who is responsible for Evil?”

  1. myatheistlife says :

    They don’t know it at all… never mind know it well

  2. K.D. says :

    I would say humanity is responsible. As for natural disasters, can we actually categorize them as “evil?”

    It’s quick and easy to take a verse from the Bible here or there to get your point across. But to understand the difficult parts it takes time and effort.

    Regarding the Isaiah passage: If God created humanity and humanity is responsible for evil, wouldn’t that mean that God creating humanity ergo God created evil? Just a thought.

    • Tittan says :

      If god knows all, past and future, he would have known that his creation would come up with evil, and thus he created evil at the moment he created man.

      I agree that humanity is responsible. We invented the term “evil” (and “good”) to be ablle to explain why somethings are “right” while other things are “wrong”. Still, “good” and “evil” is not universal. It is not set in stone. It changes as society change. Things we see as “evil” today (torture is my example) were not (as) “evil” earlier. In the future stuff we think of as “normal” might be seen as “evil”, while our “good” might be “neutral”.

      • K.D. says :

        Now, my views may be a little out there compared to mainline Christianity and as my understanding grows my views change. The terms “good” and “evil” can be vague like you say. The even seem to often be interchangeable with morals or morality.

        I prefer to define “evil” as the absence of anything “good.” So like you say, when God created the Earth and humanity and called it “good,” And because He created humanity with the freedom to choose Him (obey) or to not choose Him (disobey), “evil” was created. Or had the potential of existing, like a book sitting on the edge of a table has potential energy to fall to the floor.

        While societies change their views on what is “good” vs. what is “evil.” I believe it is God’s desire and the direction humanity should go is to work towards what God considers “good.” Ultimately, and universally I believe the Bible to teaches us to Love God and Love Others is truly what is “good.” Which would make “evil” in a sense the absence of Loving God and Loving others. This has always been a complicated issue as humanity has evolved and has not always followed God’s will or chosen Him but instead have chosen to accomplish by their own will.

      • Tittan says :

        But still, if god is all-knowing, and knows both the past and the future, he would’ve known that by giving people free will (another concept I don’t believe in by the way), he would’ve seen that man would turn against him. Thus, when he still decided to create man – he basically created evil.

      • K.D. says :

        Don’t believe in free will or don’t believe the Bible teaches we have free will?

        I define free will as the choice between one action or another. If you get angry with your boss from a conversation and desire to punch him in the face, the free will or choice comes with your response: Do you punch him or do you refrain?

        As for God’s all-knowing, I would encourage you to research what that means because how you are defining it may not align with what it actually means. Yes, God would have known that humanity could disobey His will. God created them in that way so they had the ability to freely choose Him. So humanity would not be robots that do His will without choice. That they had the freedom to Love Him.

      • Tittan says :

        I don’t believe in free will as any action we make is a result of our society, and through that our upbringing.

        You get angry with your boss and decide to punch him.
        All you have learned, both from people, and growing up in your society leads to this exact moment, and with your “knowledge” you feel you are correct when punching your boss. (You might regret it later, but at that moment it seemed right.)

        You get angry with your boss, but decide not to punch him.
        You have learned that one does not solve anything by violence.

        I’m using a broad brush here, as I’m on my way to bed now. If you want I’ll explain more deeply tomorrow.

      • K.D. says :

        I totally understand where you are coming from. But in pivotal moments in life, we have the ability to choose our response. While you might feel like punching your boss in the face, regardless of your upbringing you still have choice over whether or not you do.

        Meaning that someone who would feel that they are “correct” in punching their boss could still decide to refrain. They do not have to act according to their knowledge, understanding, or belief of what is “correct.”

        In the same way, someone who learns violence does not solve anything, might be unable to control a violence outburst depending on the circumstance. Even though they know it doesn’t solve anything and is “wrong.” And maybe they refrain from punching their boss and instead verbally assaults them.

      • Tittan says :

        By the way: I define “all-knowing” just as it say. All-knowing = someone who knows everything, always.

      • K.D. says :

        Yes, I understand your definition of all knowing, but when we translate the Bible from the original text to English, we loose a little in translation. All-knowing or omniscience when referring to God has a different meaning than “someone who knows everything.” That’s why I was encouraging you to research it rather than to define it or to say what you believe it is.

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